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tiggzi'm only doing this one because nasagrl deleted the entry where she was begging belmont and i to comment. so here's my reply to that and her reply to me and mine to her and so on...*g*
if you're tired of the debacle, and i don't blame you if you are, please feel free to disregard this post. :)
me
i believe i've already shown balls by making my entries public so all of you could comment on them. however, i've made another entry if you'd like to go check it out.
the only ill feelings i harbor toward you are the ones that were instigated with this debacle. there is no underlying hatred or a need for me to lash out because of past transgressions.
i am at work, so replies will be slim.
her
tried to post to you, once again, friends' only posts however... sorry
Okay, cause, really, what I wanted to do here was just kinda get it all worked out. I mean, I don't like being grouped in with a "mentality" for defending a friend.
I looked back at what I said to Cash and I apologized. I didn't see what Allyson posted to her. But I realize, everyone has bad days. Allyson does like to stir the pot. Life would be boring if someone didn't. I also know a very caring and kind Allyson who I eat lunch with on a regular basis, who listens to my problems and helps me out. And so I took offense. If someone was calling someone who wasn't ever a bronzer names, I would jump to their defense too.
The thing that bugs me here is that I get painted with some *one of them* brush. I'm not saying I don't have friends at the camp, or a totally different LJ-friends list than yours. But it doesn't make me some sheep that just jumps in to hurt you or tear you down just because. In fact, if she *had* posted at the camp, I wouldn't have said anything. Because I don't go there often enough to follow the many tangents.
And, on a tangent of my own, if I had actually seen what Allyson said, and I had felt it was over the edge, I would have been one of the first to jump on AIM and tell her. But you don't know that about me. You just seem to think that I blindly attacked Cash because she was going off on an old time camper. Um, not that involved in either the camp or the beta... LJ is my bronze now.
I didn't mean for it to go as far as it did *in her journal* If belmont would like to continue the conversation, I am more than open to it. I really would like to know why he got so mad at me, specifically. He doesn't know me. You don't know me.
I did get amusement out of the fact that she deleted her journal. But then I thought about it. I don't agree that it was the only way to handle it, but I see why she did it. I feel bad about it. I kinda wish she would go back and open it up again. And yeah, I apologized to her. And at the same time, realize that she has another journal. I feel bad, but not as bad as I would if she had no way to connect with her friends.
I don't think anyone should feel uncomfortable about ranting in their own journal. But I also think that if you leave the journal public, and you leave the comments open to all, that you should *EXPECT* people to voice their opinions, especially if what you have to say is hurtful to someone else. I don't expect any less from anyone else in my journal.
I have ranted about people. In person, out loud, in my journal, at the old bronze. I don't do it in the camp or beta, if I have a problem there, I post directly to that person, just like I am now posting directly to you, unless I have no way to reach them.
I'm not saying I was right or wrong. I do feel what was said in Cash's journal could have been said elsewhere. I even posted my problems with your posts in my journal so that you could post there, and not burden your friends with a problem you have with the way I handle things. I am sorry. I do come on strong. I have very few strong beliefs.
I defend my friends. I don't like it when people group me into any group for reasons I don't understand or agree with.
Hope that wasn't too witty. I do think that I did something bad and but now I said sorry everything may not be okay. Cause, yeah, still feeling bad she felt she had to delete.
I still wanna talk to belmont though, like I did anything to be called a hypocrite. Or the whole ganging up thing. I really don't understand that. I mean... hello? If you could explain it to me. I just don't understand it, and I kinda feel stupid about it.
me
grrr....i don't know why the damn thing won't change over to accept all posts. i've tried it multiple times. *sigh*
it's not so much that you were grouped in with a "mentality" for defending a friend. it's the way you went about defending your friend that i had an issue with. i'm all about defending friends or i wouldn't be posting to you now about this.
i'm well aware that Allyson is a truly nice person. she's definitely been a good friend to me. however, i can also recognize when she's being bitchy or as you said "stirring the pot". that's exactly what she was doing when all of this started.
i actually am quite aware that you aren't active in either the camp or the beta. again, that wasn't my point. the point was that you do share the same posting style that so many of them tout. a holier than thou way of posting, if you will. the air of superiority that i brought up in Chrissy's lj. it seemed to me that you were telling her that she didn't know Allyson, so she has no business calling her
anything or even calling her at all. you may not have wanted to come across that way, but it's how i perceived it.
you'd have to talk to belmont about why he said the things he said. i don't pretend to speak for him.
i'm glad that you are admitting that your amusement with the issue was wrong. someone else's pain and frustration is not amusing. especially when livejournal is supposed to be a place to relieve stress.
again, i didn't object to you commenting on her public journal. i only objected to the way you handled it and voiced your opinion.
i can also come across as opinionated and bitchy and i apologize to you if i did so. i'm just so tired of this particular incident rearing it's head. i've had numerous friends get berated or made to feel bad for things they've
posted in lj and i'm sick of it.
i think of lj as a sanctuary from the bullshit and i don't like when it's drug in here. i use it to vent, i use it to keep my friends up to date on important things going on with me and i use it to do silly quizzes or questionnaires.
anyway...that's my feelings on the matter as concise as i can put it.
now i wouldn't have to drudge all this up if you'd done as you posted and "had the balls" to leeave your post open. so...here it is. in all it's glory. i couldn't respond all day because i was working and work actually requires me to do just that.
if you're tired of the debacle, and i don't blame you if you are, please feel free to disregard this post. :)
me
i believe i've already shown balls by making my entries public so all of you could comment on them. however, i've made another entry if you'd like to go check it out.
the only ill feelings i harbor toward you are the ones that were instigated with this debacle. there is no underlying hatred or a need for me to lash out because of past transgressions.
i am at work, so replies will be slim.
her
tried to post to you, once again, friends' only posts however... sorry
Okay, cause, really, what I wanted to do here was just kinda get it all worked out. I mean, I don't like being grouped in with a "mentality" for defending a friend.
I looked back at what I said to Cash and I apologized. I didn't see what Allyson posted to her. But I realize, everyone has bad days. Allyson does like to stir the pot. Life would be boring if someone didn't. I also know a very caring and kind Allyson who I eat lunch with on a regular basis, who listens to my problems and helps me out. And so I took offense. If someone was calling someone who wasn't ever a bronzer names, I would jump to their defense too.
The thing that bugs me here is that I get painted with some *one of them* brush. I'm not saying I don't have friends at the camp, or a totally different LJ-friends list than yours. But it doesn't make me some sheep that just jumps in to hurt you or tear you down just because. In fact, if she *had* posted at the camp, I wouldn't have said anything. Because I don't go there often enough to follow the many tangents.
And, on a tangent of my own, if I had actually seen what Allyson said, and I had felt it was over the edge, I would have been one of the first to jump on AIM and tell her. But you don't know that about me. You just seem to think that I blindly attacked Cash because she was going off on an old time camper. Um, not that involved in either the camp or the beta... LJ is my bronze now.
I didn't mean for it to go as far as it did *in her journal* If belmont would like to continue the conversation, I am more than open to it. I really would like to know why he got so mad at me, specifically. He doesn't know me. You don't know me.
I did get amusement out of the fact that she deleted her journal. But then I thought about it. I don't agree that it was the only way to handle it, but I see why she did it. I feel bad about it. I kinda wish she would go back and open it up again. And yeah, I apologized to her. And at the same time, realize that she has another journal. I feel bad, but not as bad as I would if she had no way to connect with her friends.
I don't think anyone should feel uncomfortable about ranting in their own journal. But I also think that if you leave the journal public, and you leave the comments open to all, that you should *EXPECT* people to voice their opinions, especially if what you have to say is hurtful to someone else. I don't expect any less from anyone else in my journal.
I have ranted about people. In person, out loud, in my journal, at the old bronze. I don't do it in the camp or beta, if I have a problem there, I post directly to that person, just like I am now posting directly to you, unless I have no way to reach them.
I'm not saying I was right or wrong. I do feel what was said in Cash's journal could have been said elsewhere. I even posted my problems with your posts in my journal so that you could post there, and not burden your friends with a problem you have with the way I handle things. I am sorry. I do come on strong. I have very few strong beliefs.
I defend my friends. I don't like it when people group me into any group for reasons I don't understand or agree with.
Hope that wasn't too witty. I do think that I did something bad and but now I said sorry everything may not be okay. Cause, yeah, still feeling bad she felt she had to delete.
I still wanna talk to belmont though, like I did anything to be called a hypocrite. Or the whole ganging up thing. I really don't understand that. I mean... hello? If you could explain it to me. I just don't understand it, and I kinda feel stupid about it.
me
grrr....i don't know why the damn thing won't change over to accept all posts. i've tried it multiple times. *sigh*
it's not so much that you were grouped in with a "mentality" for defending a friend. it's the way you went about defending your friend that i had an issue with. i'm all about defending friends or i wouldn't be posting to you now about this.
i'm well aware that Allyson is a truly nice person. she's definitely been a good friend to me. however, i can also recognize when she's being bitchy or as you said "stirring the pot". that's exactly what she was doing when all of this started.
i actually am quite aware that you aren't active in either the camp or the beta. again, that wasn't my point. the point was that you do share the same posting style that so many of them tout. a holier than thou way of posting, if you will. the air of superiority that i brought up in Chrissy's lj. it seemed to me that you were telling her that she didn't know Allyson, so she has no business calling her
anything or even calling her at all. you may not have wanted to come across that way, but it's how i perceived it.
you'd have to talk to belmont about why he said the things he said. i don't pretend to speak for him.
i'm glad that you are admitting that your amusement with the issue was wrong. someone else's pain and frustration is not amusing. especially when livejournal is supposed to be a place to relieve stress.
again, i didn't object to you commenting on her public journal. i only objected to the way you handled it and voiced your opinion.
i can also come across as opinionated and bitchy and i apologize to you if i did so. i'm just so tired of this particular incident rearing it's head. i've had numerous friends get berated or made to feel bad for things they've
posted in lj and i'm sick of it.
i think of lj as a sanctuary from the bullshit and i don't like when it's drug in here. i use it to vent, i use it to keep my friends up to date on important things going on with me and i use it to do silly quizzes or questionnaires.
anyway...that's my feelings on the matter as concise as i can put it.
now i wouldn't have to drudge all this up if you'd done as you posted and "had the balls" to leeave your post open. so...here it is. in all it's glory. i couldn't respond all day because i was working and work actually requires me to do just that.